Hidden Shower with In-Floor Shower Pan for DIY Van Conversion

Hidden Shower with In-Floor Shower Pan for DIY Van Conversion

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Below is everything about our hidden shower. It’s still a work in progress at this time, we will update as we progress!

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Theory


Hidden vs Wet Permanent Shower


Deciding between a hidden shower and a wet bath may be one of the hardest decisions for this van. A permanent shower has potentially more benefits and may be a better choice for most people. But from our experience, the reality of living full-time in a van often means spending time inside for various reasons. So, maximizing living space is at the top of our list, as long as the hidden shower is super easy/fast to set up and stow.

Honestly, we’re not even sure if we’re making the right choice and if we may regret it. But we’ve got to at least try and experience it!

Hidden Shower

PROS
  • Much smaller footprint.
CONS
  • More steps to set up/stow.
  • Curtain must be dried before stowing away.
  • More complex to build?

Wet Bath

PROS
  • Always ready to go (unless used as storage).
  • No dry time after use.
  • Can be used as a mud/dry room.
  • Easier to build?
CONS
  • Occupy living space permanently.
  • Must be emptied before showering (if used as storage).

In-Floor Recessed Shower Pan


We considered the Modern Times Van Co Hidden Shower Pan but ultimately went with TecVan because of its dimension, drain location, depth, and the included bamboo walkable cover. Both are solid options; it just depends on your needs. On a side note, we would love a plastic option for more comfort (warmer to the touch).

The TecVan shower pan is listed at a total depth of 1.5″, but be aware that it’s a bit more than that! We recommend a total floor thickness (insulation + subfloor + covering) of at least 2 inches.

32″ x 22″ x 1″ (2″ drain)
28″ x 23.6″ x 1.5″ (1-1/4″ drain)

Installation


Time


TBD

Cost


TBD

Weight


TBD

Recessed In-Floor Shower Pan


Material


ITEMDESCRIPTIONQTYBUY
TecVan In-Floor Shower Pan28″ x 23.6″ x 1.5″ (1-1/4″ drain). Stainless.1TecVan
Magnets50mm x 10mm x 4mm Neodymium.14BuyNeoMagnets
Insulation PadWe used Minicel, but XPS or Thinsulate could work as well.

Resources


The included bamboo cover features a metal flange. The idea is to shower WITH the bamboo mat, and use the flange to attract the magnets. But as you’ll see below, we decided to shower WITHOUT the bamboo mat, and so we removed the metal flange. Your choice 🙂

To secure the curtain, we bonded neodymium magnets around the outside of the shower pan (with ca-glue):

Lesson learned: Use another magnet to ensure the orientation is identical for all (to ensure polarity is oriented to attract, not repulse!)

To prevent squeaking, we bonded some black scrim around the pan (the black scrim was taken off some Thinsulate leftovers we had):

Insert the drain from the top:

And secure it with the brass nut underneath. The threads in the drain didn’t go all the way up, so we added a spacer (we 3D printed it, but maybe we could have found one at the hardware store):

Using an oscillating tool, we made “clearance slots” to add some room for the magnets:

All the clearance slots. Seal the bare wood edges with the product of your choice (we used Spar Varnish because we had it handy):

We CNC’d some Minicel on the Shapeoko to add as much insulation as possible between the shower pan and the van floor. We chose Mincel instead of XPS to prevent any squeak. Alternatively, you can use Thinsulate (no need to CNC anything 😉 ):

I could watch this all day 🙂

Insulation pad in place:

Add painter’s tape to protect the floor and the pan from oozing. Better safe than sorry!

Add Silicone II on the mating surfaces:

Drop the shower pan:

Here, I’m adding wood scraps to ensure the weight is concentrated at the edges of the pan, to make it as flush as possible with the floor:

And let the gravity do its work for about 24 hours:

In retrospect, I would use Adjustable Support Poles instead of weights for better control and results. The forward edge is not perfectly seated, and I feel like a support pole would have worked better…

The next day…

With the bamboo cover:

We couldn’t find a drain adapter small enough that would fit between the frame and the grey tank, so we designed and 3D printed one (Shower Drain Elbow Adapter | 1-1/4″ BSP to 1″ Barb):

At this point, we’re getting into plumbing territory… it’s time to pass the torch to Super Antonio Bros!


Shower Cabinet


Material


ITEMDESCRIPTIONQTYBUY
Shower MixerThis is the more compact mixer we could find!1Amazon
Shower HeadCompact and looks good!1Amazon
Flush Pull Latch
(aka Slam Latch)
Select a latch for the correct door thickness (1/2″ in our case).1Amazon
Friction Hinges
(36mm x 28mm)
Friction hinges prevent the curtain bar from moving around during showering.
We also use one for the flippable shower head holder.
7Amazon
Frog HingesBecause of the tight space, it’s the only type of hinge that would work (a gas spring wouldn’t fit). We had to trim the rear hinge slightly so it wouldn’t clash with the mixer enclosure.2Amazon
Aluminum Flat Bar1-1/2″ x 1/8″ x 96″.1Amazon
1/4″ and 1/2″ Baltic BirchFor the cabinet itself.
M6 x 20mm Flange Button Head Screw (Stainless)To attach the shower cabinet to the van.
** You may need a different length depending on your installation
4Amazon
M3 x 10mm Button Head Screws and Nuts (Stainless)To fasten the friction hinges to the aluminum bar.24Screw
Nut
#4 x 3/4″ Flat Head
Wood Screw (Stainless)
To fasten the friction hinges to the structure.4Amazon
#6 x 5/8″ Flat Head
Wood Screw (Stainless)
To fasten the alu bar supports and the shower head holder bracket to the structure.4Amazon
#4 x 1/2″ Flat Head
Wood Screw (Stainless)
To fasten the curtain hooks to the structure.4Amazon
#6 x 1/2″ Pan Head
Wood Screw (Stainless)
To fasten the latch bracket and shower hose retainer to the structure.4Amazon
#4 x 1″ Flat Head
Wood Screw (Stainless)
To fasten the mixer enclosure’s front plate.4Amazon

We have a saying: if it’s too complicated to use, we won’t use it. So we HAD to come up with a shower system that’s easy to deploy and stow away.

Here’s the idea:

Here’s our idea coming to reality:

Making the Cabinet

First, we made all the parts on the Shapeoko. Our CNC File or Paper Template are available:

We glued the bottom, top, rear, and front panels together. We used brad nails to hold the parts while the glue dries (clamps would work too!):

Here is what we have so far:

We then glued the hinge holders to the front and rear panels:

Because the frog hinges don’t have any adjustment, it’s easier to install the hinge before gluing the back panel! We located the door and secured it with clamps, then piloted the holes:

We installed the screws to get the location of the door dialed in, then removed the hinges from the carcass for the next steps:

It’s essential to install the hinges with the mechanism pointing down (see photos); otherwise, you won’t be able to install the rear hinge due to the mixer enclosure!

We glued the back panel to the assembly. Start with the front side (it’s chamfered), then work the rear side:

We used at least a dozen clamps to ensure a uniform and strong bong all along the edges (important!):

We glued the bottom & side panels of the mixer enclosure together (and let dry), then glued the mixer enclosure assembly to the cabinet:

The front panel is included for stability/integrity during the glue op, but do NOT glue it. This is a removable part!

The front panel is removed to continue:

We then installed the 3D printed hose retainer using a right-angle drill adapter (it would be easier to install it BEFORE gluing the enclosure to the cabinet! Next time…):

We installed the mixer to the front panel, and clipped the hose to the retainer:

Then we clipped the hot/cold hoses to the 3D printed retainer:

And pushed it into place (it snaps into the cutout):

We reinstalled the mixer enclosure’s front panel with the four screws:

  • We didn’t glue the screw attachment (upper-right corner), but it should be done at this point!!
  • Pre-drill the screw holes. Otherwise, the plywood will expand and delaminate while inserting the screws. Finish tightening the screws gently by hand to prevent damaging the fragile threads (screwing parallel to the plywood’s layers is not ideal…)

Making the Curtain Folding Bar

The curtain folding bar is made of 1.5″ x 1/8″ aluminum bar (available in big box stores). The front is 31.3in long, and the sides are 13in long (x4). The friction hinges are fastened with M3 x 10mm Button Head Screws and Nyloc Nuts:


More coming soon!


On Second Thought…


Too soon!


Inspiration of the moment…


If you’ve been following us since the start, you probably remember Eric (BCPOV) and Yuka (VanGirlYuka), right? We spent a few months with them, traveling in our van and exploring new trails on our mountain bikes. Well, at the time of writing these lines, Eric just started a two-year, round-the-world trip on a motorbike. It’s an entirely new chapter for him; it’s VERY inspiring, and I bet it will be epic!

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8 thoughts on “Hidden Shower with In-Floor Shower Pan for DIY Van Conversion”

  1. Thanks for sharing this! They are definitely leaning on you all for install instructions as there isn’t much out there on it.
    Plumbing this shower drain is a real head scratcher! I’m burning up far too much time on it. The drain assembly we received is 1-1/4″ IPS which is pretty common for pop up sink drain assemblies. But like you said, impossible to find a 90 degree component for ANY 1-1/4″ IPS in plastic/nylon/pvc as most all of them are designed to go into a P trap, smooth pipe, etc.
    I emailed Tec Vanlife a few times with no response. Trying to get a 90, low profile, into a Hepvo waterless valve. If it helps anyone, I think the easiest route is to use the shortest length of the included 1-1/4″ smooth pipe (cut the metal down), with an adapter 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 gasket for 1-1/2″ lock ring elbow.
    Also the bamboo floor insert you’ve (wisely) removed will crack under 150lb person like myself [upside down smiley emoji here]

    Reply
    • Yeah plumbing that thing is a real challenge! Thanks for the insights.

      FYI we are keeping the bamboo insert, but we removed the metal contour. We’ll add support under it (probably a minicell block), to prevent damage (it is definitely bending under our weight!).

      Reply
  2. Curious about your saying you would do 1.5” xps foam board next time? We’re also installing this shower pan but having a hard time finding 1.5” foam board but 1” is easy to find. Can you provide more detail about the challenges with doing 1” foam board and 1/2” plywood? Thanks!

    Reply
    • The shower pan is listed at 1.5″ depth, but it’s actually a bit more than that.
      So with 1.5″ floor thickness (1″ foam + 1/2″ plywood), the pan can’t properly sit flush with the floor.

      Hope this makes sense,
      Antoine

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  3. That is the slickest hidden shower I have EVER seen. Was thinking of something similar but this is next level. Thanks for all of the tips.

    Reply

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